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Finally, every smoker’s dream came true, a cigarette that’s not bad for you.
Gamucci is an e-cigarette that looks, feels and tastes like a real cigarette but doesn’t hurt you, the ones around you or the environment. It’s a rechargeable device that uses sophisticated micro-electronic technology to deliver a true smoking experience, only without the tobacco smoke and tar that contain over 4.000 toxins. It contains water, propylene glycol, nicotine and tobacco scent and, instead of exhaling smoke, you exhale harmless vapors. So your body receives all the nicotine it craves but without all the other nasty stuff, it’s a dream come true and best of all you can legally smoke it indoors.
One rechargeable Gamucci cartridge is the equivalent of 20 cigarettes and the device’s battery lasts a whole day, when used with normal use (whatever that means).
If you’d like to know more about this revolutionary device and even order one click the link at the bottom.
March 28, 2008
about time…
March 28, 2008
Where do you get one?
March 28, 2008
Ok so when has nicotine been safe. Can I give it to my kids while they are playing with the safe lead off the box?
March 28, 2008
Yeah, safe cigarettes except for the whole part about nicotine being poisonous. But it’s a start.
March 28, 2008
Dan K, nicotine is safe. there’s nothing harmful about nicotine. Its the method of delivery that is harmful.
March 28, 2008
I really couldn’t care less. I swear I’ll start smoking again as soon as this ridiculous prohibition is lifted. Also, why does everyone tell me quitting is so hard? I did it in a day.
March 28, 2008
nicotine is an endogenous chemical. thats why it works in your body. thats why nicotine patches are available over the counter but you should not give any unnecessary chemicals like nicotine, growth hormone, aspirin, caffeine, high fructose corn syrup, etc. to your kids,
March 28, 2008
this appears to be a battery operated vaporizer. is this on the level? is it on the market? does vaping work with tobacco like it does with other substances?
March 28, 2008
that is all we need, a “healthier” way to smoke
that will really get people to quit
March 28, 2008
wow dan k. nicotine isnt bad for you in such a small dose. its the other stuff in cigarettes that are bad for you. They use nicotine in the patch to ween you off smoking. so i am pretty sure its safe. wow.
March 28, 2008
since when is anything safe all drugs would be fine if correctly dosed btw if you didnt know prescription drugs are drugs too as is alchohol and even those aleve you pop after a hard day. drugs arent even closely related to playing with lead. a better way of thinking of drugs is like a food that instead of filling your physical needs as a human fills the emotional/mental needs so dont even whisper stupid analogies like that unless your willing to provide some solid evidence. have fun.
March 29, 2008
No one said it was completely safe, Dan K, but it’s sure as hell safer than smoking.
March 30, 2008
Nicotine is and never was the reason why anyone ever asked you to quit smoking!
Nicotine is not a poison … or else there would be no life on earth.
March 30, 2008
>Gamucci is an e-cigarette that looks, feels and tastes like a >real cigarette but doesn’t heart you
Do you mean it does not *hurt* you? Or does it stop your heart?
March 30, 2008
Yay, Now children can smoke in school and no one will know!
March 30, 2008
This is actually a very old invention. RJ Reynolds developed a glycol cigarette in the late 60’s. You could actually ignite it with a match. The problem is that users did not like the feel and taste. There is a big social and psycological reason people smoke.
Kmuzu
March 30, 2008
Nicotine is a highly dangerous substance when given in large doses, providing it has a high potencey. Im not allocating that you can die from smoking twenty ciggarettes in a row but if you distill the pure nicotine from chewing tobaco, it would only then take a few drops, lets say in someones coffee, to mimic a heart attack. Nicotine is an extremley dangersous substance that kills, but in cigs its not the poison of anti-ciggarette lobbyists.
March 31, 2008
Nicotine reacts with and changes proteins in your body, and, even though not enough research has been conducted to confirm definitive effects, changes like that to your natural body function are rarely good for you.
March 31, 2008
@ Dr. Hassan - you sir are an idiot. Nicotine IS a poison “Nicotine is one of the most toxic of all poisons and has a
rapid onset of action. Apart from local caustic actions, the
target organs are the peripheral and central nervous systems.
Nicotine is also a powerfully addictive drug.”
http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/chemical/nicotine.htm
I’m guessing you bought your Doctorate from the internet University of Stupidity?
March 31, 2008
Yeah. Making a “healthier” drug will definitely get people to quit.
Might as well start offering disease-free e-needles to heroin addicts.
Same addictive qualities…
“healthier” transport method.
I can just imagine all the lovely bacteria one would inhale from sucking on that thing all day. The human mouth is a filthy place.
March 31, 2008
Two words: propylene glycol. It’s used in many products, such as deodorant. Since it is an oilfield by-product, it’s no wonder more men today are getting breast cancer than previous generations. Can’t be all that healthy.
March 31, 2008
Nicotine is not safe. It’s quite a potent poison, and is used as a natural insecticide. One cigarette contains enough nicotine to kill a person, luckily the burning process destroys most of it.
Also, nicotine is not endogenous in humans.
April 1, 2008
how much and sign me up
April 2, 2008
sign me the fuck up!!
April 3, 2008
yay, now instead of 5 bucks a pack, you can spend 100
April 3, 2008
Everything is dangerous in large amounts. Water will kill you if you drink too much of it. Oxygen will kill you if you breathe too much of under pressure (like when SCUBA diving). To say nicotine is dangerous in large doses is stupid - of course it is. So is milk. But if somebody is already addicted to nicotine and is going to be smoking no matter what, then I’d say it’s better for them to get the nicotine without the tar and other poisons added by the cigarette manufacturers. So get off your high horse and go take a water overdose.
April 5, 2008
Everything is dangerous in large amounts. Nicotine isn’t the real danger of the cigarette, it’ll just get you addicted. The other crap in the cigarette is the dangerous stuff.
April 5, 2008
So Daniel, are you saying that if I ate a cigarette it would kill me?
April 8, 2008
@Patti…
>> I can just imagine all the lovely bacteria one would inhale from sucking on that thing all day. The human mouth is a filthy place. <<
How is this any different from eating food or breathing through your mouth?
April 8, 2008
Useless.
April 8, 2008
It isn’t 100 per pack. It cost 100 to get all the stuff plus about 5 packs worth. After that you spend about 14 dolors for 5 packs worth making it about 3 dolors per pack. 100 dolors a pack would be stupid but of course the person who decided that they were 100 per pack has such a short attention span that reading far enough in the link giving to the product page would be more than difficult. Good job “ass hat.” The name fits you well.
April 8, 2008
Why does any loser ever smoke in the first place? Can’t they just NOT do it? I never got why any fricken person woul want to ever fricken smoke! They are such low-lifes! Don’t give in to the bums on the street who tell you to smoke. If you ever do smoke . . . STOP! Just quit if you ever do smoke, weather you smoke for 7 days or 7 years. ONLY PUNKS AND LOSERS WANT TO SMOKE, SO WHY DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE IF YOU DON’T WANT TO?
(P.S. feel free to use TCKOTB from now on, it’s the best acronihm EVER!)
April 8, 2008
But anyway . . . it’s a good start for those punks who do smoke!
April 8, 2008
As a smoker, I like the idea. Why bicker over p’s and q’s? It’s a new idea. We live in a world of microscopic organisms, there are exponentially millions on any of us at any given moment.
I by no means encourage smoking, but if someone out there is still willing to experiment and give us a healthier alternative, so be it! And be thankful for the opportunity for the rest of ya’ll to breathe easier.
April 8, 2008
For those that, apparently, are incapable of READING: To find out more information, such as where to purchase, click the “SOURCE” button below the article.
Seriously, people…Do you just skip over important information? ::rolls eyes::
April 8, 2008
Actually, nicotine isn’t harmless. First off it’s a poison, granted not at these low concentrations. But also, its can inhibit apoptosis (’cell suicide’) this can mean cancerous cells which would otherwise kill themselves survive. Although, sometimes it can promote apoptosis, it’s effect isn’t important what is, is that it has one.
On the other hand, nicotine(smoking) has been shown to reduce incidence of parkinson’s disease.
APOPTOSIS Links:
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/figsonly/103/16/6332
http://content.onlinejacc.org/cgi/content/full/41/3/482
http://carcin.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/19/4/551.pdf
http://carcin.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/19/4/551.pdf
PARKINSON’S Links:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070709171619.htm
http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band107/b107-5.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSCOL06339920070320
Ali.
April 8, 2008
Wow. You are idiots. Stop being so self righteous. Congratulations choosing not to smoke, but keep it to yourself. If I want to smoke, that’s my business, especially now that it can’t be done in public. This isn’t the 1950’s. Everyone knows smoking is dangerous. When people start smoking they know this full well. I challenge you to find a 10 year old who hasn’t been force fed years of D.A.R.E or similar anti-drug education.
So you’re telling me that you would actually disapprove of a product that helps people continue to smoke (which they wil do anyway) while eliminating the harm done to themselves and those around them? Sounds like you really thought that one through. Oh and by the way. Giving clean needles to junkies is for your safety much more than theirs. If a drug user wants his/her fix, s/he will shoot up regardless of the needle they use being clean. But as more drug users contract AIDS, the chances of non-drug users (like you and me!) contacting the disease increases. Oh and last time I checkd, you couldn’t get high from a needle alone.
Guess what? Caffeine alters the chemicals in your body and in large doses can cause heart attacks. Are you suggesting we ban coffee now too?
So please do keep fighting the things that intelligent people come up with for our own protection, health and safety. Thats what we need more of in this country; nay-sayers without any solutions of their own/ Congratulations you are all holding the rest of us back.
Oh and by the way, I am not a smoker. I’m just an individual who is sick of everybody thinking that they know whats best for the people around them. So its not up to you to get everyone around them to quit for “their own good.” Last I checked, that was a decision that we were free to make, comrade.
April 8, 2008
that will save alot of lives along with alot of money. it is kinda like this other thing i saw
April 9, 2008
i saw something like this once… im not sure smokers will appreciate looking like theyre sucking on highlighter pen in public
April 9, 2008
The coolest kid on the block (TCKOTB) said:
“Why does any loser ever smoke in the first place? Can’t they just NOT do it? I never got why any fricken person woul want to ever fricken smoke! They are such low-lifes! Don’t give in to the bums on the street who tell you to smoke. If you ever do smoke . . . STOP! Just quit if you ever do smoke, weather you smoke for 7 days or 7 years. ONLY PUNKS AND LOSERS WANT TO SMOKE, SO WHY DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE IF YOU DON’T WANT TO?
(P.S. feel free to use TCKOTB from now on, it’s the best acronihm EVER!)”
morgan bennett said:
“Wow. You are idiots. Stop being so self righteous. Congratulations choosing not to smoke, but keep it to yourself. If I want to smoke, that’s my business, especially now that it can’t be done in public. This isn’t the 1950’s. Everyone knows smoking is dangerous. When people start smoking they know this full well. I challenge you to find a 10 year old who hasn’t been force fed years of D.A.R.E or similar anti-drug education.
So you’re telling me that you would actually disapprove of a product that helps people continue to smoke (which they wil do anyway) while eliminating the harm done to themselves and those around them? Sounds like you really thought that one through. Oh and by the way. Giving clean needles to junkies is for your safety much more than theirs. If a drug user wants his/her fix, s/he will shoot up regardless of the needle they use being clean. But as more drug users contract AIDS, the chances of non-drug users (like you and me!) contacting the disease increases. Oh and last time I checkd, you couldn’t get high from a needle alone.
Guess what? Caffeine alters the chemicals in your body and in large doses can cause heart attacks. Are you suggesting we ban coffee now too?
So please do keep fighting the things that intelligent people come up with for our own protection, health and safety. Thats what we need more of in this country; nay-sayers without any solutions of their own/ Congratulations you are all holding the rest of us back.
Oh and by the way, I am not a smoker. I’m just an individual who is sick of everybody thinking that they know whats best for the people around them. So its not up to you to get everyone around them to quit for “their own good.” Last I checked, that was a decision that we were free to make, comrade.”
The first thing you must consider, in any general contentious situation, is what assumptions and inferences is one willing to make out of their ego (subjective aggrandization of self-worth, evinced by misheld confidence in judgement)? Here, “the coolest kid on the block (TCKOTB)” supposes one to be a low life and a punk, should they choose to engage in tobacco usage as a hobby and pasttime. But what difference is this from any sinful activity or engagement that we ALL involve ourselves in, to keep our mind transfixed by some delusion of “content”?
Morgan, it isn’t that people believe they know what’s best for those around them, it’s simply ignorance and carelessness of their own ego, their own lack of objective awareness. Who likes to reconsider a notion made out of their basic nature? That’s too much devotion of discipline. Regardless, I think the benevolent aspects of the whole dilemma are clear. Allocate your ends to the service of the self, for vain manner in which you seek to self-entertain, or remain a servant to those who, even brute, are of life, deservant.
April 10, 2008
cone one people you surely aren’t buying into this - another addictive activitey is not what the world needs
April 10, 2008
Nicotine is not endogenous in the brain. It is an agonist at nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, stimulating the release of dopamine and inhibiting its reuptake, resulting in higher concentrations of extrasynaptic DA. It is more addictive than cocaine, which in comparison only stimulates DA release.
April 10, 2008
I bought my husband & I each an NJoy electronic cigarette starter kit a couple weeks ago. We got them a couple days ago. Today is our first day without traditional cigarettes. It’s not exactly the same, but if I can stick to this instead of regular cigarettes, it is a step in the right direction. Healthier for us & our children…however we have never smoked in our house. My only concern is that I might overdose…I smoked Marlboro Ultra Lights before the switch…the cartridges are low in nicotine level. But I seem to smoke this more often…as it never ends. I am terrified of trading one bad thing for another. *sigh*
April 11, 2008
That is so Ghey!
April 11, 2008
I have to have one please get in touch with me, Chrissedew67@verizon.net
April 12, 2008
Smoking comes down to being a choice. little bitches like TCKOTB aren’t old enough to understand what “choice” and “individuality” mean yet.
and I don’t like this thing, like NewEnglander said it never ends, that’s too weird for me.
April 13, 2008
This is really confusing. They make a “cigarette” that doesn’t include any of the Tar or carcinogens of a real cigarette, this is assuming nicotine isn’t a carcinogen (and since i haven’t heard the anti-smoking lobby call it that I’ll assume it isn’t.). The worst thing it has in it is nicotine. It claims to provide the taste and feel of a real cigarette, without the poisonous smoke. This clearly is intended more to be a nicotine patch equivalent then it is a cigarette alternative. It isn’t designed to be soked by a none smoker, just like methadone isn’t designed for a non-heroine addict. This is nothig but a good thing, and to get hung up on small things like a smoker, who is addicted to nicotine, getting their fix without as many of the risks i retarded.
Fuck the cool kid on the block
Wu Tang Forever
April 13, 2008
If they only came out with a replacement for my one-hitter…
April 14, 2008
I’m a regular cigar(Romeo y Julietas or Royal Jamacias), cigarette(either Marboro 27’s or Parliament Unfiltered’s), and hooka aficionado. Lets face it, alot of us love tobacco, and if you don’t like it, don’t smoke. Its not your right to sit here and tell me how to live. I find it interesting how one can sit and insult smokers till the day is nigh, but the second I say anything about fatties having to put down the cheeseburger, I am being a politically incorrect, insensitive jerk. Seriously people, this is an honest business offering a product to the public, they are not shoving down your throats (being that all advertising for tobacco products has been stopped, go freedom of speech). If you do not wish to own or use this product, you do not have to, that is what makes America great, freedom. Even though one may not take advantage of all their rights, it by no means allows them to trample on the rights of others.
I am, and always will be a smoker. I will never encourage anyone to smoke, actually I tell alot of people to stay away from it. It is a personal choice that I made, for me, and if I die from a habit, than it is my fault, nobody elses. Its a trait that is being quickly forgotten about within this wonderful world….personal responsibility.
Seriously guys, we are all in this life together here, play nicely.
April 14, 2008
Brian, i don’t know if you’ll ever read this, but its people like you that make the internet palpable. Thank you. Thank you for your rational level headed thought, thanks you for not riddling your response with bad grammar/spelling, thank you for not being a dick. Just thank you. You kick ass.
April 17, 2008
TCKONB LEARN HOW TO SPELL
April 20, 2008
Wow…
I understand fully that the worlds attitude towards smoking and smokers is changing, but it there really any need for the venom in some of these comments?
The driving force behind anyone sticking a cigarette in their mouth is a simple but nevertheless difficult to break (for most) DRUG ADDICTION - ease up guys, 99.9% of smokers know they are harming themselves, they also know they don’t really enjoy what they do but simply cannot stop.
Appologies for the history bit here..
I am a smoker of 25 years, the really sad thing here is I am only 36 years old. I look a lot older, but hey, that’s years of smoking for you. I am breathless walking up the stairs. I am fully aware that I am killing myself and that I stink of tobacco smoke I hate myself every time I light a cigarette yet I continue day in, day out.
I have tried cold-turkey, gum, patches, inhalators, nasal sprays (the worst of the lot, they BURN) in fact I have tried just about everything to date.
I only just found out these things exist and ordered one yesterday, I will write a follow-up to this post after I have had it a few days.
I am hopeful this may just be the thing I have been looking for, I am not stupid enough to think that it will replicate cigarette smoke at all, but it will deliver nicotine in the manner I am accustomed to receiving it, a few microdoses at a time, with immediate effect.
I am a drug addict, I am addicted to a colourless oily compound used in weedkiller, I know nicotine is a poison but I am also aware that the major damage done by tobacco isn’t done by its addictive compound, it’s mainly the tar that goes along with tobacco smoking that is killing me. I am hoping that this device will allow me to at least reduce the harm I am doing to myself until I finally manage to garner the necessary ‘backbone’ to eradicate this vile poison from my life completely.
I disagree with the marketing that is being used for these “e-cigarettes” They are being marketed as “the future of smoking” I believe the future of smoking is irradication.
In advertising the way they are the manufacturers of these devices are as guilty of peddling an addictive poison as the tobacco companies are although I don’t really see non-smokers taking up the habit this way as it appears even more ridiculous that traditional smoking (if that is actually possible?)
As a harm reduction method though, with a view to eventually giving up smoking through nicotine replacement I am very hopeful for the gamucci and it’s like. I wish they would make a version that didn’t actually look like a cigarette as I am trying to break a lifelong habit, not merely replace it longterm with a ridiculous lookalike.
I also certainly don’t intend sitting there in a restaurant like these idiots in the adverts proudly using it, in fact I can imagine the use of this to be an almost crippling embarrassment but I want to give up and I am hoping this will help. Here’s to the next couple of months with me hiding this bizarre looking gadget up my sleeve…
I’ll let you know how it goes…
April 23, 2008
Well I got it yesterday morning, and I must say I’m pretty impressed really.
The Gamucci produces a very smooth ’smoke’ it doesn’t taste exactly like a cigarette which I suppose is to be expected, but it is way closer than anything else I have tried. It is like a slightly sweet heavy vapour that you can even blow smoke rings with! (I am such a child)…
The sweetness is VERY slight and I must say quite pleasant, it took me all day to get used to it but I think it will take the place of tobacco permanently with me very soon. It really is fairly close to the real thing, there is no harsh acrid ‘kick’ at the back of your throat but you can certainly feel something going down and it is quite satisfying.
Overall I would say if you are a true lover of tobacco and you love the taste of a bonfire permanently in your mouth you probably wont be very impressed with this. But if like me, you don’t really love tobacco but cannot give it up then I’d say to give this a go over a few days, it really is a realistic alternative to tobacco!
April 23, 2008
[...] somebody should start advertising the e-cigarette more, it would solve the littering problem and keep smokers [...]
April 23, 2008
You’d just get mouthpeices everywhere…..
April 25, 2008
Got one, taste is shocking. Got an e-cig, that is little better. Was given a SuperSmoker, that is better but still not a Marlboro Light…
April 25, 2008
While everyone is busy thinking about cancer, you’re forgetting.. or unaware.. of the insidious nature of nicotine as a poison. Nicotine kills you with surprising efficiency, although it may take a while a smoker. Chewing tobacco is smokeless - certainly you are aware of the tremendous incidence of stomach/pancreatic/mouth/lip/tongue/etc cancer associated with it. Ah, but beyond cancer.. It destroys your circulatory system. It hardens your arteries. It makes them brittle and susceptible to arterial sclerosis. Even better, it strips the lining of your arteries making fatty deposits stick like glue to the sides. It gets better - nicotine stimulates the growth of new capillaries into the fat deposits that cling to the sides of the arteries, thus anchoring them solidly there. Strokes.. heart attacks..
It also causes a very nasty disease that literally results in the loss of your limbs. It starts with your fingers and toes and works its way up until your arms and legs are gone. A certain small percentage of people are very vulnerable to this condition when exposed to nicotine.
Nicotine is a powerful poison and it will kill you. Yes, many things are harmful that we take every day.. But unless Parkinson’s disease is more scary to you that a stroke, a heart attack or cancer, do yourself a favor and stay away from nicotine entirely.
April 25, 2008
I’ve never understood how smoking can be construed as anything but a form of pathological self hatred.
April 25, 2008
You know what’s a lot safer and healthier than smoking? Not smoking.
April 25, 2008
The people arguing against this remind me of the people who actually argue against the HPV vaccine on the grounds that cervical cancer must be preserved as a deterrent against premarital sex. You would rather smokers die then smokers smoke without dying, do the world a favor and fuck off.
April 25, 2008
What is with all the nicotine apologists? Where are these crazy ideas coming from, like that nicotine is not extremely toxic? If I were cynical, I would think people were intentionally spreading misinformation.
I’ve been getting my nic fix from snus lately. I think it might be a good way to try to break the psychological addiction, because it is very passive. There is no repetitive oral/manual ritual, and the hit comes on a lot slower and lasts a lot longer.
April 25, 2008
I wish they could make a nicotine free version. I could start smoking again without the addiction. I just like blowing smoke rings.
April 25, 2008
Here we go again, a bunch of people who hate smokers because… well… who knows why everyone hates smokers? Is it because they don’t like cigarettes? Well, they don’t have to smoke them, do they? Is it because secondhand smoke is poison? Well, most smoker haters I know do not even know the first thing about secondhand smoke other than the crap the Govt shoves down your throat. Most people think secondhand smoke will murder all babies the instant it is released. Do they hate smokers because we are immoral? If it is immoral to smoke, then it must be immoral to drink, take medicine or pills, or ingest any other chemicals.
If people would STOP
AND THINK
They might realize that all of us are going to die. Some people choose to do things to their bodies that you may not enjoy doing to your own. Unfortunately, the line that should never have been crossed has been crossed and now it’s the norm to judge people based on what they do to their own bodies - or legislate it.
Some people don’t believe that the point to life is to live as long as you possibly can. I am one of them. While I enjoy being alive, I realize that death is inevitable, and I am not afraid of it. I will lose nothing when I die. And I am going to enjoy a cigarette while I am alive. Why? Because I enjoy the effects of nicotine, much the same as I enjoy the effects of any other chemical I ingest.
I don’t understand this mentality that you shouldn’t do anything that is potentially harmful to your body. First of all, it is often hypocritical when one tells you that smoking is bad for you, because the same person who is judging you probably drinks coffee, booze, enjoys a pain killer every once in awhile, which are all drugs and all just as harmful if not carefully moderated.
Secondly, it is absolutely none of anyone’s business what I choose to do with my body. So, your small clique of friends deems smoking to be “stupid” and “immoral?” Disassociate yourselves from me, then. Just because it is not YOUR choice does not mean it is the wrong choice.
And finally, secondhand smoke is not the evil death trap that the Govt wants you to think it is. If you don’t want to be instantly vaporized by my secondhand smoke, and I am not in your private property, then step away from me. If you don’t like the smell, move away from the smell. We all have total control of our lives, you don’t need to control mine to be happy.
Here is something you may not have thought about before: “What’s best” for someone can only be determined by THAT PERSON ALONE. Not a single human on the planet knows what is truly best for another. Everyone takes their life experience, what they know, what they prefer, and they just ASSUME everyone else is that way. While the world would be a much easier place to live in were that the case, it is unfortunately not the case and so long as we have sentience it will never be that.
And thinking for yourself will empower you beyond all choices.
April 25, 2008
I like the idea and encourage any sort of movement towards supporting things of this nature, but I wonder what the backlash of using something like this is.
Does anyone know if they are doing any tests of the “harmless vapors”?
http://www.rebeccalbrown.tumblr.com
April 25, 2008
To the guy saying nicotine is a poison. Yeah, it can poison you but so can just about anything else if you take enough of it.
April 25, 2008
Brian - interesting points and personal responsibility is great! However, that 2nd cheeseburger that someone else might eat doesn’t effect YOU at all - that’s the difference. Every cigarette that is thrown on the ground, every person that lights up in front of me (I live in a crowded city) and then chooses to walk along and blow their smoke behind them while I’m stuck walking in their trail, every doorway I have to either breathe smoke or hold my breath….that does affect me and that’s why a lot of chosen non-smokers get frustrated by what seems to be a complete lack of self-awareness and respect from smokers. I see more cigs thrown on the ground than not. My job even required that smokers move 100 feet from the doorway and they refuse - stating that ‘we all breath in a bunch of crap in this city - you’re all just whining’. Your attitude seems great but unfortunately i think you are the exception rather than the rule.
About this product….I would be interested to know how ’satisfying’ a smoker finds it. Also, I don’t care for the ‘you can smoke indoors legally’ tag line - I wonder if those ‘vapors’ are potentially still harmful on any level…like would you blow it in your babies face? If not, I’d rather not have it in mine, either.
April 25, 2008
mik: Nicoteen is not safe - sty taking a drop of liquid nicoteen and see how long you survive. The only safest way to take nicoteen is to smoke it.
Nicoteen is a very useful and potent pesticide.
April 25, 2008
Nicotine is a very mild poison.
I’m a chemist with a large commercial laboratory and we’re working on reducing the toxicity of a number of currently dangerous drugs. They beat us to this but I’m working on a healthy heroin that gives you the same high but without the addictive quality’s. By nitrating the heroin with another addictive substance (hydrogen dioxide)in a patented process we get a chemical that is closely related to heroin but doesn’t result in the physical addiction and sickness in withdrawal suffered by the currently addicted populace.
April 25, 2008
Smoking is only dangerous if you inhale it into your lungs. A lot of druggies these days stick stuff up their butt, so if you smoke from your butt, you still get the nicotine, but none of the cancer causing smoke in your lungs. And if you get ass cancer, its easier to remove.
April 25, 2008
So you still get your nice deadly dose of the wonderful carcinogen/poison that is nicotine.
Close. but only a stepping stone, not a solution.
April 25, 2008
As a smoker I’m intrugued but I think the price is a little steep to simply try out.
Has anyone tried it? Is it any good?
April 25, 2008
This has actually been tried before - http://greensboring.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=7488
But it was a market flop because smokers actually like inhaling smoke.
April 26, 2008
tolerance. the ability to imagine yourself in another’s shoes. a little bit of compassion.
These are the things that very soon will determine the ability of the ~entire~ human race to survive on this planet.
live and let live (or let die via whatever slow process you like - overeating, alcohol, smoking, toys from china, driving your SUV, ad nauseum)
April 26, 2008
Comment by Landshark on April 13, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
If they only came out with a replacement for my one-hitter…
Uh, ya, if only….
April 26, 2008
If you can’t get these, try a pipe or cigar (don’t inhale) or try snuff or snus. These are fairly safe alternatives to cigs.
Do your own research on snus or snuff. Many studies show snus is quite safe.
The worst thing about smokes is inhaling as the lungs can’t take it.
April 27, 2008
HALLA AKBAAAAR
April 27, 2008
When this goods is in the Poland?
April 27, 2008
Sick! They want your money. Now this thing is harmless ? Think about it. You will cry when you found out that you are dying from it and you blame them ? Blame yourself. Stop choice wrong from right. Dont get it, man!
April 28, 2008
It is intended to help people quit smoking and if (and you will) you do fall there it provides a trampoline like effect so you don’t splat.
Much lower dose of nicotine in the things, the menthol flavor is actually pretty close! (regular is crap)
These+zyban helped me go from 20-30 (bad day) to 0 for over 6 months. You want to know how I know it is healthier? I can run a mile without falling over from choking on phlegm and having a wonderful charred feeling. Smoking dried tree leaves 20 times a day will kill you slowly too. Smoke is bad period. To the people saying why don’t you just quit? Be thankful you don’t know what addiction is like (when you are trading something as vital as air for it over a lifetime and even when dying horribly you still want it more irregardless which should be testament to : It ain’t easy.
April 28, 2008
Also a drop of nicotine will kill a non smoker just as x amount of heroin, x amount of opium, x amount of snake venom, a simple weak flu virus will easily kill a person who has lived in a bubble eutopia. Tolerance is the word and only users have it. The trick is that drugs that affect the brain like nicotine/heroin/opium/etc.. is it always seems to tell the brain more so that is why 1 a day and such usually causes revertion to the old fairly quickly.
April 28, 2008
LOL at the ignorant people on here with their paranoid views of the e-cigarette and nicotine. Not to mention that the e-cigarette can be used without nicotine. But even that wouldn’t be good enough for you people. If someone had a tube that looked like a cigarette and they just sucked air through it as if they were smoking, you would condemn that and say how stupid you’re going to die! You just hate the idea of someone smoking, even if it is relatively healthier than some of the activities you probably engage in. You’ve been brainwashed into thinking the act of smoking is inherently evil, and you cannot accept a healthy way to smoke, because it conflicts with your whole world view. Your arguments are ignorant, illogical, childish and whiny and point to an insecure little person who is making an ass of himself. If you don’t want to know the truth, fine, but save yourself the embarrassment of speaking about something you don’t understand. For the record, I just got a few different e-cigs about a month ago and have cut way back on smoking. They are great. I would recommend njoy.com and e-cig.com. Also check out the VERY USEFUL forums at e-cigarette-forum.com.
April 28, 2008
I’m concerned with all the puritanical absolutism when it comes to smoking. Nothing is all good or all bad. What’s more troubling still is that people are willing to hem and haw about things they really know nothing about. Nicotine is not a poison. It does, however, have a toxicity level, which explains its role as a roach poison, (et al). It takes a great deal of nicotine to reach this toxic level. The drug is actually no different from acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter produced by your body that controls your nervous system and digestion. Now, interfering with your bodies natural operations if generally unhelpful and causes people to crave their artificial dose.
On a more editorial note, people are so concerned with how smoking affects them when there is no study to suggest that second hand smoke is damaging (one such report was conducted by the EPA and has since been deemed “highly unscientific” and biased. As to KRISSY’s comments. We all have to suffer other people. Personally, strong perfume makes me ill (i’m allergic to a common ingredient in fragrance) and my throat hurts every time I walk by a concession cart that uses coal (most people in nyc are familiar with offensive smelling kabob carts), but in neither case would I interfere. I deal with it. For your sake, I’m sorry you live in a crowded city. On the other hand, if the test for what you can be exposed to is “can you do it to a baby?”, I’m afraid you are not cut out for this world.
April 29, 2008
Holy sh*t
April 30, 2008
Reminds me of those Eclipse cigarettes from a few years ago. If its anything like that or inhaling tobacco through a vaporizer, I’ll pass on it.
April 30, 2008
when did smoking become illegal….I heard some of you say prohibition….smoking cigarettes is not illegal, certainly not on your own private property.
April 30, 2008
good points by some people. Sometimes with freedom and liberty you need to deal with things that you might not like all that much.
I’m with you btw….purfume can sometimes give me extreme migrane like headaches. happens to my mother as well. I
m alergic to something in purfume. Only when its gobbed on by ridiculous women who use to much. I deal with it. I don’t run around trying to ban purfume.
btw I don’t smoke.
April 30, 2008
TCKOTB….get over yourself man….your smug is worse than any smog could ever be.
April 30, 2008
go to http://www.myrevelle.com/shomer123 thats where i got mine and its great i haven’t had a cig since 2005
April 30, 2008
I think this is a good idea, nicotine is by far the lesser evil in cigarettes. Finally someone is trying to come up with a way so people can get off the cancer sticks.
April 30, 2008
I wonder if you can put crack rocks in this thing. Who needs nicotine when you got cocaine!
April 30, 2008
I like the idea. I smoke and i would really like to inhale vapor over smoke. And if it does turn out to be harmful, well it can’t be too much worse than a normal cigarette.
April 30, 2008
How come in all of this debate over carbon footprints and global warming has nobody suggested everyone on earth should quit smoking. I’ll bet that would do just as much good for the environment as telling me to trade in my full sized diesel pick-up truck (Which I use to make a living) for a micro-sized hybrid/hydrogen (Bomb) fuelcell sardine can on wheels that sure, gets 40-80 miles per gallon, but hasn’t got the cargo capacity to carry my lunchbox! Look you choose to smoke, the same as I choose to drive my truck. I have very long legs and am uncomfortable in just about anything else (Hell I even had to move the seat in my new truck back to get enough leg room).
My wife is 5 feet nothing and fits in her Toyota just fine. I don’t. But I don’t make her drive a huge truck like I do either. I was a firefighter for several years and can’t imagine any reason any one would smoke except for the addictive dependancy of the nicotine. But it all comes down to choice. I don’t force you to smoke, you don’t force me to drive a deisel. I don’t like the smell of your smoke and I’ll bet a lot of you don’t like the smell of my deisel exhaust either. At the same time I agree with no smoking zones. I should be able to enjoy a meal in a nice resaraunt without having to smell your smoke and on the same token I actually try to be considerate with my truck. If someone is behind me in the drive-up line when I’m getting my two cheeseburgers I will turn my truck off so they don’t have to smell my exhaust.
Let’s face it more people started smoking due to peer-pressure and status than any other reason. Because the simple thought of inhaling smoke is generally not a natural thing and most people avoid it. But they kept smoking because of the addictive powers of nicotine. Please feel free to enjoy your habit of smoking but try to be considerate to the rest of us. I won’t condemn you for it. But please don’t comdemn me for enjoying looking at beautiful scantily clad/nude women on the internet either. That is my habit of choice!
May 1, 2008
This is just about the most stupidest thing I have even seen. this is for people that have more money then brains.
May 2, 2008
I can breathe easier now I use one of these, quite frankly that’s good enough for me right now.
Would you tell a lifetime heroin addict to just ‘get over it, it’s bad for you’? LOL, yeah some of you probably would.
If you don’t understand addiction you should quite frankly, keep your opinions to yourself, opinions can be just as offensive as cigarette smoke. Opinions can infuriate people very easily, this raises the blood pressure, releases adrenaline and other stress hormones and guess what? CONTRIBUTES TO HEART ATTACKS AND STROKES!
You are contributing to my early death by voicing an opinion contrary to mine.
Ok, a bit of a ridiculous statement, I am aware of that but it is still technically true, your opinions can be bad for the health of others, yet there is a (perfectly correct) right to free speech. Smokers still have a right to smoke, I wish I’d never started but that’s immaterial.
We are not idiots, we are aware smoking is potentially fatal, we have this shit thrust down our throats every time we purchase cigarettes, every time we smoke one, infact we have this thrown at us all the time.
Nobody in their right mind thinks the e-cig is actually healthy, but it is harm-reduction which in my book makes the companies that produce them at least one step up from tobacco companies. Tobacco companies target non-smokers to turn them into smokers and eventually kill them. E-cig companies are targeting existing smokers with a harm-reduction product.
Good in my book, and no, I am not on commission! :-p
May 3, 2008
There’s a better product than this one out there, and it cost a lot less too. check it out at http://www.safesmokes.net
May 5, 2008
That sounds like spam, Paul. I’ve read a lot of discussions on electronic cigarettes, and I haven’t heard anyone mention the one you are mentioning, so I have doubts to its superiority. How about we inform people rather than push a product?
I have ordered from several different companies. From my experience, I recommend:
http://www.njoy.com
http://www.e-cig.com
I believe http://www.ruyanxpress.com would also be an excellent choice. Gamucci is also probably an excellent choice.
There is a wealth of info, discussion and reviews, and friendly people at:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com
May 5, 2008
To “Just Asking”… Nobody has brought up carbon footprint because they ran the numbers first and realized a smoker’s carbon footprint is infinitesimal compared to that of a car.
May 9, 2008
I bought one of these a couple of days back… I only smoke when stressed (so only at work) and only really 2 or 3 cigarettes a day. This device means I haven’t bought any cigarettes in the last week, haven’t smoked any and don’t miss it at all…
I’m not really a ’smoker’ as such but I can see that this could help you to quit. You don’t actually need to use the nicotine either, it produces smoke, occupies your hands and takes your mind off the cravings pretty well without.
Only one concern for me - my teeth are on edge and I have a faint metalic taste in my mouth… I’ll be interested to see how that goes in the next few weeks..
May 9, 2008
Nicotine actually has a stimulatory effect on your brain. In other words, it helps you focus. Great for ADD (attention deficit disorder.) I don’t encourage hyperactive kids to light up, I just think that there are some “not so well-known” reasons why people smoke. Hence the increased number of people on amphetamines (Ritalin, etc.)
I don’t smoke, and never have. I watched my father die slowly of emphysema, so I really don’t recommend it to anyone - ever. Just shedding some light on what lies behind the addiction. It’s complex & there’s a reason smoking is as popular as it is.
Who doesn’t want to take a moment to breath slowly and become more focused?… Oh! NO WONDER my dad smoked all those years, I made it sound GOOD!
Not my intention. Really. Just something to think about.
Spread kindness. Be happy.
May 14, 2008
Has anyone else heard about the recent research that suggests that nicotine might help prevent alzheimers? My husband just had a heart attack and all the stuff we read and were told by the drs was that it is the tar etc in cigarettes that causes the heart problems - not the nicotine. My husband has managed to quit but I still like the habit. I might give it a go!
May 14, 2008
Looks to me to be the same as the Njoy available in the US.
e-cigarette-forum.com, mentioned above, has a 20% off coupon code “Smokey” posted.
Damn good forum with very nice and knowledgeable members.
May 15, 2008
Does anyone know what the exhaled smoke smells like? That seems to be the biggest complaints from the non-smokers I’m with - the smell - not the long-term 2nd hand smoke effects.
May 16, 2008
It smells nice actually, and i’ve had people tell me so. It’s a faint smell, subtle, and although it would depend which flavor you were smoking, it basically a light, sweet, maybe slightly fruity fragrance. It would probably help freshen up any room. No one could possibly complain about the smell.
May 18, 2008
Interesting comments from both sides of the coin, but some of the comments are coming from people who are obviously ignorant of addictions. Yes, I smoke. Yes, I enjoy it. Yes, I hate to be hooked on something and controlled by it. Yes, I hate smelling of it. Yes, I want to give it up. No, it is not easy! Non-smokers in general berate smokers and often say “Just stop”. How ridiculous.
Having ordered one of these e-cigarettes on Wednesday and it having arrived by post on Friday, I can only say “WOW”! Will it work long term? I have no idea. Is it worth a try? Most definately! Has it worked for me? For the last 2 days yes. Is the nicotine bad for you? I have no doubt that it is although I have yet to research this properly.
Surely the nicotine that you absorb from this MUST be less harmful and certainly more socially acceptable that a cigarette.
In my opinion, this could turn out to be a tremendous life saver for many, without the side effects of giving up smoking. It is heavier to hold and longer than a normal cigarette, but many of the pleasures are the same as a regular cigarette. The shape and colour are the same; the taste is relatively close to a regular cigarette; there is real smoke like a regular cigarette; you can even blow rings with the smoke!
Advantages: No tar. No smell. No ash mess. No burn holes in shirts. No brown fingers or discoloured teeth. No smelly breath. Save a fortune.
Disadvantages: Possible harmfull effects from the low doses of nicotine. Still being controlled.
My mind is made up. Hopefully it will work long term and I can kick the habit.
After 2 days of not having smoked, down from 30 a day, I would definately recommend it!
Good luck.
May 19, 2008
So when is this thing coming to america..I want one…it’ll be the best thing since salvia divinorum!!<—(LEGAL WEED)
May 20, 2008
BigBusMan, you can buy it on Ebay, that is where I bought mine. They will probably ship to USA.
May 21, 2008
ive been using this product for 3 weeks now and im very pleased with it.Despite the high initial outlay [the cigarette itself] the cartriges are cheap..£1 per day.i have found that i need to ghange to the other battery before the cartrige has run out so i keep the spare with me.i dont suffer cravings with this method!its not quite the same as smoking but its very very close.i totally recomend it…..
May 23, 2008
As usual the arrogant, uncaring smokers are out demanding their “rights”. Smokers care nothing about themselves and nothing about other people. Smoking is assault and smoking around children is child abuse.
Anyone that smokes around me is asked politely to stop. That is, they are asked politely once. After that, I stuff the cigarette up their nose, lit end first.
May 28, 2008
Stop gettin’ on about TCKOTB!! All he’s doing is telling you that smoking is bad and that it’s your fault 98% of the time you’re smoking.
May 30, 2008
@ BIGBUSMAN:
If you’re willing to pay the shipment cost there are many webshops online.
I have been looking around, and I have great experience with http://www.smokeymonkey.nl!
It has one of the lowest prices, and 3 months warranty!
Check out this forum:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/phpBB3/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum-f14.html-sid=2e7860d488f8c9dab03ec831de99af28
June 6, 2008
As a former 25year plus smoker…. and yes quitting was difficult, hard, and people were probably better to keep their distance during that initial “stop”. What joy it is to hear of a e-cig that lets you smoke and rid yourself of the toxic part of the cig and keep you addicted to the one component you crave, Nicotene! A toxic substance that affects your circulatory system, still elevates your blood pressure, and can cause stroke. You know, just lock yourself in a room for a week, send the family away, and just deal with going completely free of the cigarettes. Don’t quit for anyone but yourself….it isn’t going to work unless you want to quit. Doesn’t matter if the wife/husband wants you to. By day three of the withdrawl if your family are putting up with your mood…they are almost about ready to throw you five bucks and send you to the corner store… So lock yourself away, leave the patches and gum at the store. Good luck!
June 13, 2008
I’ve been using this for two months. I haven’t had a single cigarette in two months, I’m able to control the urges I have by using this product.
I have gradually reduced the level of nicotine in the cartidges I use, I started on a 16mg cartidge and am now on half that strength. I hope to soon be using cartidges with no nicotine at all. It’s a very psychological addiction I have, to have something in my hand and not to ‘miss out’ when other smokers light up after a meal. I now have the satisfaction of the sensation of smoking - safe in the knowledge that it’s not harming me. This product gives me control over the level of nicotine I use, this is totally optional.
I have in the past tried everything, fundamentally there was no real substitute for a cigarette in my mind. This product is not exactly like a cigarette, but has made me question what is so great about a cigarette in the first place.
This has worked for me, and I thought I’d never be able to stop.
June 13, 2008
Oh and Inga, the smoke is completely odourless. The atomisation chamber in this e cig creates a water vapour, there is no smell. This is not even recognised as smoke by the health act as nothing is actually lit. I can puff around the most opinionated anti smokers I know, and they are non the wiser!
July 21, 2008
They are showing up all over the net now. I got mine from http://www.safesmokes.net . It was under $50, shipped free and came with an extra box of cartridges. Refills were cheaper there too. Have used it for a few weeks and have cut down my regular cigarette intake from 2 pacvks a day to about 10 cigs a day. Works great. Cheaper than real smokes. Less morning coughing too.
September 1, 2008
actually,ruyan is the original inventor of electronic cigarette and u can find information from their official website or try this website:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruyan
October 21, 2008
From your referenced article, my friend:
“Nicotine is a safe, over-the-counter medication used in smoking cessation and to treat ulcerative colitis, Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease, and Tourette’s syndrome. Nicotine patches and gum produce sustained blood nicotine levels of 10 to 25 ng/ml for over 24 h. Although nicotine has adverse cardiovascular effects when combined with cardiotoxic substances in smoking, nicotine can be used safely as a medication even in patients with cardiac disease.”
It would appear, then, that nicotine is fairly safe.
Taken from his referenced article at:
http://content.onlinejacc.org/cgi/content/full/41/3/482
October 26, 2008
Hey have you tried the Intellicig? http://www.intellicig.com
November 22, 2008
I’ve been a smoker for about 25 yrs (I’m 43) and am fully aware of all the things smoking does to one’s body, as well as the effects of second hand smoke, etc., blah blah blah. I am a very educated individual who has had a full and successful life (fyi for those previous posters), and to be quite frank, I completely enjoy smoking. I have never had the desire to quit and actually, still waiting to experience all the negative effects or simply kill me. (for the books, I have also always been a considerate smoker - even when it was once popular & common place).
Everyone is different, keep in mind, and genetics also plays a part in it too. I’m 43 but look like I’m only in my 20’s - not a wrinkle on me even. Get tested medically on a regular basis & fit as can be. I don’t cough, hack, run out of breath, etc., even after all this time.
Everyone really IS different . . . don’t forget about some of those people around the world that have reached close to and even past the age of 100 (many Europeans come to mind) - and when asked what their secrect was, it usually was a life full of smoking, drinking alcohol and eating high fat content food.
I do have a question for those of you smoker haters though . . . why in God’s name are you even “here”??? Seems to me that there must be other things/ ways to spend your time more productively that you have some personal interest in . . .
January 15, 2009
A 39 year study by the BMJ in California showed no problems from passive smoking. It’s just brainwashing by the WHO. The reason so many people hate smokers is they feel they’ve been given carte blanche to pick on a minority & they’re getting off on their little power trips, rubbing their hands together in glee because they feel they’re being allowed open season on others. They’re inadequate, shallow souls with nothing better to do than indulge their petty school bully style sadism.
March 21, 2009
If your a smoker you will love this device.
I started using the Electronic Cigarette 5 days ago, I love this e-cigarette.
I have not had a tobacco cigarette since I started using this thing, it satisfies my nicotine craving. There is no smell, no mess, no tar and you can smoke it virtually anywhere as it is not a real cigarette. (I’M SOLD ON THEM)
April 22, 2009
um no nicotine is no more dangerous than caffiene do some research
May 10, 2009
For the facts about electronic cigarettes visit http://www.e-cig-info.org, a non-commercial website dedicated to spreading the truth.
May 21, 2009
They do sell zero nicotene carts for E-cigs.
June 3, 2009
Disappointed that the taste is AWFUL — almost vanilla-sweet. Does anyone else have any comments on taste? I even traded it for the device with NOTHING IN IT BUT THE VAPOR — no nicotine, nothing. Still had the sickening sweet taste. Yuck.
June 12, 2009
[...] I might as well learn to do cool things with the cigarette packs. Either that or switch to those electronic cigarettes [...]
June 15, 2009
For everyone that has a problem with this alternative, keep it to yourself. This is a better option for smokers. It may not be as healthy as the food you purchase the organic section in the grocery store, but all in all it is much better for you. An electronic cigarette has 20 ingredients in it, as opposed to 4,000 in a regular cigarette. Korleonis, do us all a favor and punch yourself in the mouth, eat shit and then die.
July 2, 2009
The best comment on this entire page.